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		<title>Comment on Creationists Sue the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board by Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It soduns like soon the rest of the world will look at the Western Hemisphere as the land of environment-hating, backwards idiots. I can say that since I live in US, where we used to have something of a monopoly on hating the environment and crazy right-wingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It soduns like soon the rest of the world will look at the Western Hemisphere as the land of environment-hating, backwards idiots. I can say that since I live in US, where we used to have something of a monopoly on hating the environment and crazy right-wingers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Religious People More Charitable than Non-Believers? by Do Christians Give More to Charity? &#124; How to Donate Money to Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do Christians Give More to Charity? &#124; How to Donate Money to Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://rationaldreaming.com/2010/04/19/are-religious-people-more-charitable-than-non-believers/ Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.   This entry was posted in Stewardship and tagged charity, christian giving. Bookmark the permalink.    &#8592; Christian&#160;Giving [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://rationaldreaming.com/2010/04/19/are-religious-people-more-charitable-than-non-believers/" rel="nofollow">http://rationaldreaming.com/2010/04/19/are-religious-people-more-charitable-than-non-believers/</a> Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.   This entry was posted in Stewardship and tagged charity, christian giving. Bookmark the permalink.    &larr; Christian&nbsp;Giving [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ray Comfort&#8217;s &#8220;180&#8243; Movie: Holocaust == Abortion&#8230; Result!! by Brian</title>
		<link>http://rationaldreaming.com/2011/09/30/ray-comforts-180-movie-holocaust-abortion-result/comment-page-1/#comment-2167</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movie is a complete logical fallacy...guilt by association.  Complete waste of time.  It provides absolutely no rational argument for the pro-life movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie is a complete logical fallacy&#8230;guilt by association.  Complete waste of time.  It provides absolutely no rational argument for the pro-life movement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? by Ana</title>
		<link>http://rationaldreaming.com/2011/10/26/did-steve-jobs-have-a-deathbed-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs did not settle on his beliefs towards the end of his life. He had the hope that his mind could go on instead of off, he wanted to believe that his intellectual life, that is, his accumulated knowledge would still continue to entertain his mind. Like all sincere people who actually want to know, without any doubt, whether there is a God or not, Jobs preferred to conclude that in reality there is a God. When you are a true seeker of the truth you will not settle for anything less than the truth and nothing but the truth. I tend to believe that even at the moment of death as his soul was leaving his body; he found out, he found peace since he was sincerely debating himself with the idea of the existence of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs did not settle on his beliefs towards the end of his life. He had the hope that his mind could go on instead of off, he wanted to believe that his intellectual life, that is, his accumulated knowledge would still continue to entertain his mind. Like all sincere people who actually want to know, without any doubt, whether there is a God or not, Jobs preferred to conclude that in reality there is a God. When you are a true seeker of the truth you will not settle for anything less than the truth and nothing but the truth. I tend to believe that even at the moment of death as his soul was leaving his body; he found out, he found peace since he was sincerely debating himself with the idea of the existence of God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atheist Dreams of an Afterlife by Rational Dreamer</title>
		<link>http://rationaldreaming.com/2011/10/27/atheist-dreams-of-an-afterlife/comment-page-1/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Rational Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with assuming that Jobs&#039; final words were anything to do with seeing Heaven is:


1) It could have been nothing more than a hallucination brought on by some combination of medication, extreme stress, and oxygen starvation as the brain starts to shut down. Such cases are well known in the medical literature.

2) Even if he was seeing a vision of some supernatural afterlife, &quot;wow&quot; would be an equally understandable reaction for seeing any number of different things that human beings have imagined, and millions that we have not.


Of course, in a Christian society the assumption is that it must be the Christian vision of Heaven (or Hell) that Jobs was seeing. I see that merely as a failure of the imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with assuming that Jobs&#8217; final words were anything to do with seeing Heaven is:</p>
<p>1) It could have been nothing more than a hallucination brought on by some combination of medication, extreme stress, and oxygen starvation as the brain starts to shut down. Such cases are well known in the medical literature.</p>
<p>2) Even if he was seeing a vision of some supernatural afterlife, &#8220;wow&#8221; would be an equally understandable reaction for seeing any number of different things that human beings have imagined, and millions that we have not.</p>
<p>Of course, in a Christian society the assumption is that it must be the Christian vision of Heaven (or Hell) that Jobs was seeing. I see that merely as a failure of the imagination.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atheist Dreams of an Afterlife by Zach Roros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Roros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Steve Jobs last words were &quot;Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow.&quot; My ex-wife&#039;s first cousin had cancer and his last words were, &quot;I didn&#039;t know that you were all coming for me?&quot; My father in law had been asleep for days and then sat up in bed with both hands rasied towards the sky, tand then fell back dead. I believe in an afterlife. I believe that Jesus loves us and paid for our sins. Accept him as your savior and enter into the Oh Wow with the knowledge that you will enter into the light. Jesus is the light of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Steve Jobs last words were &#8220;Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow.&#8221; My ex-wife&#8217;s first cousin had cancer and his last words were, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know that you were all coming for me?&#8221; My father in law had been asleep for days and then sat up in bed with both hands rasied towards the sky, tand then fell back dead. I believe in an afterlife. I believe that Jesus loves us and paid for our sins. Accept him as your savior and enter into the Oh Wow with the knowledge that you will enter into the light. Jesus is the light of the world!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? by David Utidjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Utidjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, from PZ Myers Pharyngula (I am a long time reader since before scienceblogs and even met PZ, the Trophy Wife TM and Skatje at the AMNH (ok enough name dropping ;-)))

Well it was pretty obvious that you were (to me anyhow). Though no one ever asked me directly I always assumed that I was seen as one. The mods changed over time on that forum... I think I was a member since, at least, mid-2005 (before the Dover decision was handed down). There were some good people on it from time to time. There was one guy who went by the handle jhud (Jack Hudson) who was very very active. He actually knew some biology and was a good debater. He could get quite fired up and the mods would never touch him. I think I really got to him once and the mod at the time chewed him out. I wish I had saved that thread but it was disappear-inated by the mods. The deleting of entire threads or sections of threads was one of the most irritating things about that forum.

Back to Steve Jobs:
I have never been as big a fan of Steve Jobs as the press has been recently (or his fans constantly.) I watched this last weekends 60 Minutes program with the author of his biography. Some of the stuff they said really irritated me. For instance; When they said that Jobs was the only one to even &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; of the idea of seamless service and application integration. Which is demonstrably wrong!  What would have been true is that Jobs was one of the first people with the opportunity and will and, most importantly, position to actually make that happen. Yet he also did it at the cost of choice for the consumer. You get it the Apple (Jobs) way or you don&#039;t get it at all.
Another one is &quot;social media.&quot; While it is nominally true that Facebook is the dominant one at present... people have been using the internet to meet-up with friends and communicate for decades. Before Zuckerberg was even a gleam in his parents eyes we had Usenet news. Then talk, email, IRC and forums.

A far more significant contributor to our digital age was Dennis Ritchie. He died a week after Steve Jobs and barely got a mention in the news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie

Anyhow... it is good to connect with you. If you are ever in the NJ/NY area drop me a line and I will buy you a beer (or beverage of choice) or two or three...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, from PZ Myers Pharyngula (I am a long time reader since before scienceblogs and even met PZ, the Trophy Wife TM and Skatje at the AMNH (ok enough name dropping <img src='http://rationaldreaming.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
<p>Well it was pretty obvious that you were (to me anyhow). Though no one ever asked me directly I always assumed that I was seen as one. The mods changed over time on that forum&#8230; I think I was a member since, at least, mid-2005 (before the Dover decision was handed down). There were some good people on it from time to time. There was one guy who went by the handle jhud (Jack Hudson) who was very very active. He actually knew some biology and was a good debater. He could get quite fired up and the mods would never touch him. I think I really got to him once and the mod at the time chewed him out. I wish I had saved that thread but it was disappear-inated by the mods. The deleting of entire threads or sections of threads was one of the most irritating things about that forum.</p>
<p>Back to Steve Jobs:<br />
I have never been as big a fan of Steve Jobs as the press has been recently (or his fans constantly.) I watched this last weekends 60 Minutes program with the author of his biography. Some of the stuff they said really irritated me. For instance; When they said that Jobs was the only one to even <i>think</i> of the idea of seamless service and application integration. Which is demonstrably wrong!  What would have been true is that Jobs was one of the first people with the opportunity and will and, most importantly, position to actually make that happen. Yet he also did it at the cost of choice for the consumer. You get it the Apple (Jobs) way or you don&#8217;t get it at all.<br />
Another one is &#8220;social media.&#8221; While it is nominally true that Facebook is the dominant one at present&#8230; people have been using the internet to meet-up with friends and communicate for decades. Before Zuckerberg was even a gleam in his parents eyes we had Usenet news. Then talk, email, IRC and forums.</p>
<p>A far more significant contributor to our digital age was Dennis Ritchie. He died a week after Steve Jobs and barely got a mention in the news. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie?referer=');">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie</a></p>
<p>Anyhow&#8230; it is good to connect with you. If you are ever in the NJ/NY area drop me a line and I will buy you a beer (or beverage of choice) or two or three&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? by Rational Dreamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rational Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busted!

Hi David/Embedded -- I think you are the first person to make that connection (the first who has mentioned it, at least). Did you follow a link from FreeThoughtBlogs?

I never mentioned the fact that I was an atheist on the board (I almost did in the last few days) because I didn&#039;t want my opinions to be dismissed as those of a raving atheist troll (though I guess some did anyway) and, in fact, my political beliefs haven&#039;t really changed since I was a Christian--I have always been a liberal. It was also quite entertaining to see people being dinged by the mods from time to time for calling my faith into question. :)

Anyway, glad you stopped by. I was amused to read about Jobs&#039; squeamishness about the on/off switch. Even if they are there, but hidden, it&#039;s still quite an apt metaphor for how people--even most believers--like to bury their thoughts about mortality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busted!</p>
<p>Hi David/Embedded &#8212; I think you are the first person to make that connection (the first who has mentioned it, at least). Did you follow a link from FreeThoughtBlogs?</p>
<p>I never mentioned the fact that I was an atheist on the board (I almost did in the last few days) because I didn&#8217;t want my opinions to be dismissed as those of a raving atheist troll (though I guess some did anyway) and, in fact, my political beliefs haven&#8217;t really changed since I was a Christian&#8211;I have always been a liberal. It was also quite entertaining to see people being dinged by the mods from time to time for calling my faith into question. <img src='http://rationaldreaming.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, glad you stopped by. I was amused to read about Jobs&#8217; squeamishness about the on/off switch. Even if they are there, but hidden, it&#8217;s still quite an apt metaphor for how people&#8211;even most believers&#8211;like to bury their thoughts about mortality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? by David Utidjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Utidjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;‘And that’s why I don’t like putting on-off switches on Apple devices’&lt;/i&gt;

Yet every Apple device I have ever used has an on-off switch. Some are just hidden.

BTW, are you the same tacitus that used to post on the, now defunct, christianity/crosswalk forums?
If you are, Hi! I used to post under the handle &quot;embedded&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>‘And that’s why I don’t like putting on-off switches on Apple devices’</i></p>
<p>Yet every Apple device I have ever used has an on-off switch. Some are just hidden.</p>
<p>BTW, are you the same tacitus that used to post on the, now defunct, christianity/crosswalk forums?<br />
If you are, Hi! I used to post under the handle &#8220;embedded&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Steve Jobs In Hell? by Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? &#171; Rational Dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Did Steve Jobs Have a Deathbed Conversion? &#171; Rational Dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] jobs death bed conversion&#8221; which was taking them to the post I put up entitled &#8220;Is Steve Jobs In Hell?&#8221; To be perfectly honest, I realized as I was typing the title it would probably make good [...]</description>
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